Pretcov
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Reply with quote | #1 | When it was all over last Saturday in Monte Carlo, Carlos Monzon gingerly eased the position of his battered body on the rubdown table and permitted himself a small, almost silent laugh. He was still the middleweight champion of the world, but Rodrigo Valdes had forced him to fight 15 punishing and bloody rounds to prove it. At the end, it took a great effort for Monzon just to stand and hear the decision. His face was cut and puffed, his right hand was almost useless. And now, only minutes after returning to his dressing room, he seemed ready at last to give it all up. The bitter amusement passed swiftly. Monzon seldom shows emotion and he is even more miserly with any sign of humor. "It is done," the now full-time Argentine film star said flatly. "I have done it all. I leave it now to the young fighters." It is the right time. Monzon has been champion for nearly seven years and he has been undefeated in 83 fights since 1964, but age has started robbing him of his marvelous skills and awesome power. He will be 35 in a few days. His film career is launched; he has $2 million salted away in a New York bank; he owns apartment houses, thousands of acres of ranchland and a Mercedes-Benz agency in Argentina. What does he need boxing for? "He needs it because he is an animal and he lives for macho," said Rodolfo Sabbatini, who promotes Monzon's fights in Monte Carlo and produces his films in Rome. "He says he is retiring, but next January or February he will call me and say, 'How come you haven't got me a fight? I'm coming back.' By the end of the year eliminations will bring a new champion, and then Monzon will have to fight the man who succeeds him. It's his macho." Proving his macho has always been Monzon's undoing. Because of fights in the streets he spent a lot of time in jail between the ages of 16 and 26. He was lucky that his manager, Amilcar Brusa, also trained the police boxing team. They say that Monzon was paroled on Saturdays so he could fight as a professional. On Sundays it was back into the slammer. There may be some truth to it. He recently appealed and won a release from another 18-month sentence for assault but reportedly still faces an eight-month sentence on another charge. "He's got a big file, about 40 arrests," says Sabbatini. "It's not true when they say the best fighters come from ghettos. The best ones come from jail. But that is good. If they didn't lock up those animals, the streets wouldn't be safe for us." When Sabbatini speaks of Monzon, it is with the curious mixture of amusement and an almost parental pride. With great relish he tells of Monzon meeting Helmut Berger, the German movie star. It was last February in Rome, just after Monzon had completed his most recent film, one aptly titled II Macho. (pg 1 of 3. Article continued on link above)
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Pretcov
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Not a chance, besides CBZ it's not flooded with juveniles. Still if you enjoy it there, then it's all good.
Check out the site, they have everything from fighters of the past to present, their records and biography. I believe they have been on the NET since 1995. The forum is incredible, there are many members there with an incredible amount of knowledge about the sport, including fighters, managers, promoters and boxing writers that have been around for many years.
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I have seen many boxing sites and overall East Side Boxing is the best, others have hidden viruses and shitty lounge's...but ESB with it's forum, it's news, and it's great radio show is by far the best  |
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Ischbaad Registered: Nov 01, 2009
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Reply with quote | #5 | ESB is more entertaining than any other site that I know of, and it by far has the most interesting characters. |
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Pretcov
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Quote: Originally Posted by AngelBoxerI have seen many boxing sites and overall East Side Boxing is the best, others have hidden viruses and shitty lounge's...but ESB with it's forum, it's news, and it's great radio show is by far the best 
A true boxing fan does not judge a boxing site by the coffee break lounge. Viruses, where...on Doghouse boxing, yes we all know that. Boxrec and CBZ rule, they always did. __________________ Save the Bushmen |
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az Registered: Oct 08, 2005
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Reply with quote | #7 | Too right Pretcov. Boxrec and especially CBZ, by a mile. The only thing that esb has that the otherds don't is.....the others don't read your pm's
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MaxMolyneux
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Reply with quote | #8 | ESB's the best for the lounge even though they have shit servers. Plus it's articles suck or the general forum is full of Pac and Klitschko fans who suck.
Boxingscene has pop ups all over it.
Boxrec is best knowledge wise but are too stuck up over off topics.
I use ESB mostly though.
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Pretcov
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Quote: Originally Posted by MaxMolyneux ESB's the best for the lounge even though they have shit servers. Plus it's articles suck or the general forum is full of Pac and Klitschko fans who suck.
Boxingscene has pop ups all over it.
Boxrec is best knowledge wise but are too stuck up over off topics.
I use ESB mostly though.
Boxrec is a wonderful site. The reason the lounge never took off on Boxrec, is not wanting to divert attention from the sport. Now..there is a thing called 'Boxrec sim', not sure what that is all about, a lounge of sorts?
Check out CBZ, aside from the forum, check out the huge database they have on boxers, present and past, incredible. It takes getting used to navigating the pages, probably the same set up as from 1995-2000. A directory would be useful. __________________ Save the Bushmen |
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Reply with quote | #10 | I like ESB, it lets fans be fans. I guess it's less restrictive, but don't get me wrong they know when to lay down the hammer when shit hits the fan. For a year, I actually commented on the articles before realizing there was actually a forum . What can i say i am smarter than the average bear . I started GF and moved to the lounge and I usually go back and fort. In both places there are nutty fans/posters, but that's everywhere, in just about every forum. I don't want to be in a forum, where everyone agrees with me, or have debate like were in "meet the press," sometimes I just want to call some guy a cunt, and him respond back by calling me twat . And If your smart, and learn not to take things personally, which shockingly some people don't, you should have fun.  |
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